Frosty and Handel

Keeping

With Ben Foakes walking off with the Man of the Series award earlier this week we thought it appropriate to devote some web space to wicket-keeping as, generally, the Stats and Features sections of this site lean towards batting and bowling performances.

Who could or should we ask? When looking at commentary in the “My Greatest XI” section, two bits of feedback from he of pony tail and he of Radio DJ helped us identify a suitable candidate to pick on…

Po : “…I’ve never seen anyone making keeping wicket look as easy. I don’t know enough about keeping to get technical, but I never worry about edges or stumping chances not being taken when he’s behind the stumps. Also a fluent batsman with the ability to rotate the strike or hit boundaries and, (like a lot of good keepers), never short of a word or two for the opposition batters when necessary”

and

Radio X : “…Easy choice as wicket-keeper. He has taken countless edges off my bowling over the years and helped my average out. Plus I’ve never seen anyone play so little yet always look in decent touch with the bat. Thankfully we never bat together as he runs far too many singles.”

Having gone past 200 dismissals for the Club in the season just gone, we set Tom Frost a little challenge which he gladly took on.

Firstly, could he recall the twelve players who he has combined with for the most catches and/or stumpings?

TF : I can have a stab at the names but I’ve no idea about the order…

1. Willo
2. Hiken
3. Hoppy
4. Toby
5. Ralphie
6. Shawn
7. Timmy

SDCC : A good start here as six of the seven above are on the list…

24 – Coleman (23ct, 1st)
20 – Handel (All ct)
17 – W.Frost (5ct, 12st)
14 – Tarrant (13ct, 1st)
13 – Hopton (9ct, 4st)
10 –
9 –
9 –
8 –
8 – Shah (5ct, 3st)
7 –
6 –
5 –

Frosty Keeping
Frosty and Willo

Surprisingly Shawn Dyson is, (currently), an incorrect answer. There has only been one c T.Frost b Dyson

TF : Surely Dyson got more than 1 snick off…

SDCC : Shawn has picked up six wickets courtesy of catches by keepers, (over 55% of all Shawn’s dismissals have been bowled or leg-before), but five of them were held by James Whitmarsh. Frosty has just the one behind the timbers, plus one as an outfielder.

TF : Will Gudgeon? Andy Page?

SDCC : W.Gudgeon is a correct answer, (7 – all caught), but nothing off Pagie.

Frosty Keeping T20 Finals

TF : Raimondo has to be in there. Will Lander? Stuart Riley?

SDCC : A couple more gaps filled, so the board now looks like this…

24 – Coleman (23ct, 1st)
20 – Handel
17 – W.Frost (5ct, 12st)
14 – Tarrant (13ct, 1st)
13 – Hopton (9ct, 4st)
10 –
9 –
9 – Raimondo (2ct, 7st)
8 –
8 – Shah (5ct, 3st)
7 – W.Gudgeon
7 – W.Lander
6 –
5 –

Stuart Riley wasn’t a great guess as he only took thirteen wickets for the Club, six of them for the 2s.

TF : (Looks like he is starting to think about the Trust League) T.Gudgeon? Alim Sheikh? Trying to think of who used to bowl when we were in Fuller’s…also I used to play Sunday so maybe Roy Johns or Finchy?

Frosty Team Picture STL

SDCC : Updated list…
24 – Coleman (23ct, 1st)
20 – Handel
17 – W.Frost (5ct, 12st)
14 – Tarrant (13ct, 1st)
13 – Hopton (9ct, 4st)
10 –
9 – T.Gudgeon (8ct, 1st)
9 – Raimondo (2ct, 7st)
8 –
8 – Shah (5ct, 3st)
7 – W.Gudgeon
7 – W.Lander
6 –
5 –

Only one c T.Frost b Sheikh and two just dismissals each off Johns and Riley. Incredibly, despite the difference in the number of overs bowled and wickets taken for the Club, the Finch brothers have one dismissal each courtesy of Frosty.

A great effort so far, and having kept a promise not to cheat, he did start to ask for some clues! (Without scrolling down, how are other readers of this getting on?)

TF : Spinners or seamers? Levido? Saud Hassan?

24 – Coleman (23ct, 1st)
20 – Handel
17 – W.Frost (5ct, 12st)
14 – Tarrant (13ct, 1st)
13 – Hopton (9ct, 4st)
10 –
9 – T.Gudgeon (8ct, 1st)
9 – Raimondo (2ct, 7st)
8 –
8 – Shah (5ct, 3st)
7 – W.Gudgeon
7 – W.Lander
6 – Levido
5 –

SDCC : Sam Levido, he of mullet and late swing, teamed up with Frosty six times in the single season that he played for us. Saud Hassan played a few more years but just the one c T.Frost b Hassan in the scorebooks.

TF : Seb Jewell? Sid? Surely Po!

SDCC : No and two yesses respectively…

24 – Coleman (23ct, 1st)
20 – Handel
17 – W.Frost (5ct, 12st)
14 – Tarrant (13ct, 1st)
13 – Hopton (9ct, 4st)
10 – Lahiri (4ct, 6st)
9 – T.Gudgeon (8ct, 1st)
9 – Raimondo (2ct, 7st)
8 –
8 – Shah (5ct, 3st)
7 – W.Gudgeon
7 – W.Lander
6 – Levido
5 – Mills

Nothing for Sebby but Lahiri was the last of the missing double-digit answers…

Nearly there…

TF : Ummm…Duncan Murphy…Gluckman…CHALKY!!!

Frosty Gurn 2

SDCC : Only two for Murphy, (both caught), and three, (all-stumped), for the God of Chalk. Just a solitary stumping off Gluckers.

TF : Surely I took more than 3 off Chalky! I might need a clue…Richie?

SDCC : Richie P 1ct 1st and Robbie P zero.

TF : I am kicking myself here. 8 is loads so definitely kept over multiple seasons…I’m desperately trying not to cheat!

SDCC : OK, a clue…you kept to him in one match this year. You also played another match with him but he didn’t bowl…

TF : I can only think of Roddy (Kelso) or Kane (Fullalove) that fit that bill. League games THIS year? Jase?

SDCC : Only ever one c T.Frost b Earl (v Avorians in 2012)

TF : Do I stand up to him?

SDCC : Wouldn’t recommend it…but then again you did stand up to Bomber this year…

TF : Speaking of which I plan on putting in the work so that I can stand up to him in middle overs this season to raise my game to the new division’s standard…

…BONDY!!!!!

SDCC : Yes, this completes the board…

24 – Coleman (23ct, 1st)
20 – Handel
17 – W.Frost (5ct, 12st)
14 – Tarrant (13ct, 1st)
13 – Hopton (9ct, 4st)
10 – Lahiri (4ct, 6st)
9 – T.Gudgeon (8ct, 1st)
9 – Raimondo (2ct, 7st)
8 – Bond
8 – Shah (5ct, 3st)
7 – W.Gudgeon
7 – W.Lander
6 – Levido
5 – Mills

Frosty Team Picture JLT

There have been 44 different caught and/or stumped T.Frost b Bowler combinations amongst his 201 dismissals, against 64 different clubs. Nearly a third of all dismissals, 63, have come against just eight of those clubs, though.

Being told the last paragraph seemed to light the curiosity touch paper, so looking for another challenge Frosty asked for another list with gaps to fill. We sent him this…

10 – One opposition
9 – 2 x oppositions
8 – 2 x oppositions
7 – One opposition
6 – 2 x oppositions

TF : I remember taking 3 catches against Godalming when I wasn’t keeping so I’d guess that they would be up there. I feel like we’ve played Old Ruts lots of times including Trust League. I haven’t played in many Churt games.

SDCC : 9 dismissals v Godalming, (Agge & Clarke twice, Old Man Gilly and four others once.) 7 v Ruts, (Foster twice.) Just the four dismissals against Churt in the two games this year.

TF : Merrow? Oxshott? Kingstonian? Old Hamptonians? I’m thinking of clubs that we have met in several seasons.

Frosty Gurn

SDCC : Some good guesses here…

10 – Kingstonian
9 – Godalming and ???
8 – ??? and ???
7 – Old Rutlishians
6 – ??? and ???

TF : Byfleet?

SDCC : No. Only 3, (14/06/2008 – Levido and 01/07/2017 – Tarrant x2 – quite a time gap there!)

TF : Chertsey? Old Paulines? Please say Dorking! Thames Ditton?

SDCC : You’re on a roll..

10 – Kingstonian
9 – Godalming and Thames Ditton
8 – Dorking and ???
7 – Old Rutlishians
6 – ??? and ???

From earlier, five against both Merrow and Oxshott…just one against Old Hamptonians, (James Lander), and none against Paulines.

TF : Struggling to think of more clubs. Addiscombe? Guildford City?

SDCC : Four and two respectively. Here is the full list including the missing ??? cases…

10 – Kingstonian
9 – Godalming and Thames Ditton
8 – Dorking and Weybridge
7 – Old Rutlishians
6 – Claygate and Hampton Wick Royal

…and here is a pretty decent squad of players that have fallen more than once to a caught and/or stumped T.Frost:

2 Agge (Godalming)
2 Foster (Old Ruts)
2 Gavin-Brown (Ashtead)
2 Hooker (Lingfield)
2 Hussain (Kingstonian)
2 Khan (Kingstonian)
2 Ravi Shankar (Old Tiffs)
2 Raza (Hampton Wick Royal)
2 Taylor (Weybridge)
2 Turnbull (Thames Ditton)
2 Vincent (Claygate)
2 Woods (Chipstead)

TF : Ah! I was thinking of HWR when I said Old Hamptonians! When have we played Weybridge enough times to take that many wickets?

SDCC : The eight versus Weybridge were…

2 in the Trust League in 2008
4 in the Surrey Championship T20 in 2009 – one of these was Oli Slipper
2 in the Trust League in 2010

The second one in 2010, (http://sdacc.play-cricket.com/website/results/1327532), was this guy : http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/player/334394.html

trust-league-v-weybridge-2010

Four in a match is Frosty’s personal best…

22/05/2009 v Weybridge (Surrey Championship T20 Cup)
28/06/2009 v Magpies (Sunday XI)
05/06/2010 v Maori Oxshott (Surrey Championship 1s)
07/08/2010 v Thames Ditton (Surrey Championship 1s)
13/08/2016 v Sinjungrammarians 2nd XI

Frosty Team Picture

The full record can be viewed here : Tom Frost Dismissals

Here are Frosty’s full Play Cricket numbers, although the system doesn’t split out fielding and keeping numbers : http://sdacc.play-cricket.com/website/player_stats_widget/fielding_stats/347494?from=fielding_stats&rule_type_id=179
All figures correct to the end of the 2018 season.

Thanks to Frosty for his time on this…or is it the other way around as we seem to have helped him fill in some down time from keeping World Peace in far flung parts of the globe.

We suspect the latter as his Greatest XI has also now come in to the Club mailbox. Keep logging on to the site for that, and for other news & features!!!

Tom Frost Century at Claygate